

Doti discusses the future growth of the campus during an annual address. Photo by Bruce Chambers, The Register
James Doti, the economist who serves as president of Chapman University in Orange, was paid a salary $440,000 during the 2007-08 academic year, which is $40,000 higher than the salary given to the president of the United States. Doti also received $27,516 in benefits, for total compensation of $467,516, says the Chronicle of Higher Education (CHE), which examined the salaries of scores of presidents and chancellors at public and private colleges and universities. (These are the latest comparative figures available.) The study doesn’t mention that Doti lives in a 5,000 square-foot home in Villa Park that’s provided by the university.
UC Irvine Chancellor Michael Drake also lives in an official university residence. And, during the 2007-08 academic year, he was paid $392,000 in salary, $19,600 in retirement pay and $8,916 to cover car expenses, says the CHE table. Drake’s total compensation was listed at $420,516.
I emailed Doti and asked, “I realize that they are different jobs, but how do you feel earning more, in salary, than President Obama? (His predecessor, George W. Bush, also was paid $400,000 in salary.)
Doti, who has been president since 1991, replied that, “If Obama wants to trade jobs with me, I’ll consider it… even at the lower pay.”
I also asked him why he earned more than UCI’s Drake, whose campus has almost 28,000 students. Chapman has an enrollment of about 6,000.
” I’d rather not comment on salary differences with Chancellor Drake,” Doti said.
Lastly, I asked Doti why his 2007-08 salary was lower than it was a year earlier.
“I’m not sure,” Doti said in the email. “It’s probably due to some things the Chronicle counts in one survey that they decide not to count in the next survey. New federal funding regs are also muddying up the comparisons.”
Sample of total compensation packages of a variety of California colleges and universities, 2007-08 academic year.
| Institution | Total compensation |
|---|---|
| University of the Pacific | $1,350,743 |
| Univ. of Southern California | $1,023,198 |
| Caltech | $803,296 |
| Stanford University | $731,614 |
| Pepperdine University | $526,926 |
| UC Berkeley | $467,556 |
| Chapman University | $467,516 |
| Pomona College | $453,000 |
| UCLA | $445,716 |
| Claremont McKenna College | $436,454 |
| Whittier College | $341,450 |
| University of Redlands | $324,768 |
| Biola University | $323,814 |
| Concordia Univ. (Irvine) | $221,798 |
That same year, the compensation for the president of the University of California system was $434,166. And for reasons not explained by CHE, the figures for Cal State Fullerton were not included in the national survey.
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The president of the US does not run for the job because of the money. In fact the President should not even get a salary since there is a free Cadillac health care plan, free transportation in all kinds of vehicles, free use of a huge house, unlimited entertaining and throw inthe fact of being the most important leader in the world. Power is name of the game. Comparison of salary and benefits of college presidents or any other CEO to that of the President of the US cannot be justified.
Let’s not forget the planes and helicopters. If you factored in all the amenities, goods and services for the President, there is no comparison. The journalist sounds bitter.
I have to ad my two cents in. I think ever since Dr. Doti came to town Chapman University has grown and made the City of Orange a better place to live. Just imagine if Chapman would have moved into Santa Ana instead of Orange. Santa Ana would have been the jewel of Orange County and Orange would have been the ghetto. Fortunately for The City of Orange it’s the other way around.
Dr. I love what you did with the place, keep up the good work.
PS People quit complaining…
I’m with YOU…at least Chapman is being run better than this COUNTRY has been for the last 6 months!
Is this another ploy to take away compensation for REAL work and “spread the wealth”?
OCR throws this stuff out here so everyone will get angry over this mans salary…not HAPPENING.
Ok. Lori, intelligence at it’s worst.
The US economy was on a downward spiral going back to the past 6 years, not six months….Dah….
I have not read that he is doing a bad job or that he is a bad leader, we are reading concerns of how a person as Dr. Doti can help NOW,
During these crisis???
When Babe Ruth was asked the same question about his pay exceeding that of the President of the United States he replied , ” I had a better season than he did’.
Given Obama’s performance so far I think Mr. Doti could make the same
claim.
I agree 100%.
You beat me to it. That was going to be MY comment!
Your poll is objectionable and tasteless. Chapman is a private institution. Remind me again why the readers of this newspaper should even HAVE an opinion about how a private institution chooses to compensate its president?
There are plenty of reasons to complain about Dr. Doti. But his compensation package is none of our business.
Jillsifer: Chapman is private only in name. Many of its students receive lots of public money in the form of Pell Grants and Cal Grants — public support that makes is possible for kids to go to college. Most of Chapman’s research money also comes from public sources. Many of its professors were educated at public colleges and universiies.
Then the OCR is not a private newspaper, by that logic, since your carriers drive on publicly funded roads to make deliveries, and supplies are brought in on those same roads. Additionally, the carriers and other employees of the OCR receive protection from the military and law enforcement that allows them to do their jobs.
No, Gary, you posted the question to get responses. Because they are not of the exact variety that you wanted or took a different tack than you expected you are now chastising them for it, and deleting their posts. By that standard you ought to delete your own post that I am now responding to.
Focus, Grunt, focus. The story is about Dr. Doti’s salary. The question is: Do you think he deserves to be paid more than the person who is president of the US. (The US President’s current salary was set in 2001.)
The writers at the OCR are getting defensive. What does it matter what the Chapmen president earns. What does it matter where the faculty of Chapmen earned there degrees?
It’s painfully obvious that the government has taken over the OC Register. This piece is not new worthy. May I suggest that you look into the pay that movie actors earn. I’m certain that many of them were educated at the publics expense.
GARY,
How can you DELETE a post concerning the president performance when your question BEGS the answer to include a “PERFORMANCE BASED” SALARY?
It is YOU that is comparing APPLES TO ORANGES not the people commenting.
Gary, I realize that many of Chapman’s students get taxpayer-funded assistance. That’s true of almost every postsecondary institution in the United States, as is your point that research money comes from public sources–whose doesn’t, and why is that germane to how Dr. Doti is compensated? I vehemently disagree that a university president’s salary should be the basis for an “approve/disapprove” poll in a newspaper. And how is it relevant that many Chapman professors attended public universities?
Do you plan to run a poll on whether my friends at Boeing should get a raise? After all, many of their contracts are for government work.
I understand your point. I just don’t agree.
WELL SAID jillsifer!
Don’t forget the LITTLE PEOPLE who happen to work for a living…..
Are there any job cuts?
Will there be any job cuts there?
Have any programs been cut?
Will any part of tuition be raised?
If the answer is NO, then great, dont worry, he is worth every penny, but do not talk or criticise your President of the United States, he had the overwhelming approval for this appointment.
Thank you..
doti does an excellent job and he isn’t a radical socialist.
Editor’s Note: I deleted a message for being an off-topic political dig. The topic is Dr Doti’s salary, not whether a person likes or doesn’t like President Obama.
DeAnn: I welcome comments from you. But make them about the topic, which is Dr. Doti’s salary.
Then not all factors are being considered.
Gary,
I would dare say that you made it political from the get go when you brought in the President…and you likely knew it…having seen enough of the blogs here on the OCR.
Grunt: I don’t mind if readers make references to the accomplishments/non-accomplishments of the two men. I’m trying to keep the section from becoming filled with petty partisan remarks about the President. I would do the same if Bush was still president.
Mr. Doti’s salary is reasonable considering his extremely large ego that must be properly compensated. I’m waiting for the U.S. News 2010 rankings on Higher Education egos - Mr. Doti should once again be in the top 10.
Gary,
That’s a stretch. I went to public schools that were financed by tax dollars, I served in the military and earned GI Bill benefits, under your theory my private sector salary would be a matter of public interest.
Government “invests” in private institution research and education on a voluntary basis because they believe a public benefit will be realized in the future.
Private institutions do not become quasi-government operations because persons receive grants or loans to attend.
Private institutions make business decisions to apply for and accept government money for research and services.
Finally, Chapman places a value on having a noted economist as their president. It’s a business decision. Having a notable person as president no doubt helps the institution’s reputation and it’s bottom line in the form grants, loans and private donations.
What they pay their president is of no interest to me whatsoever.
(BTW, I am not connected with Chapman University in any way)
Vic Ray: Public money is public money, and Chapman receives a lot of it, directly and indirectly (publicly-funded Pell, Cal grants.) I’m not being critical of Pell grants. I got two when I went through college in the 70s.
Re: Public money…the point being what? Oh, because Chapman gets public monies via student and research grants there is more free to pay Chapman’s President.
Well, every last penny the President of the United States gets, and the perks of office, is public money. I have yet to hear of Chapman running a deficit, so, if anything, the President of United States ought to have his pay reduced and Mr. Doti’s increased, or privatize the government?
Chapman was in the red, financially, in part of the 1980s, before Doti became president.
Like others, comparing salaries of collage presidents and the president of the US is irrelevant.
Cost of education is an issue. I’d guess 60 cents on the dollar are wasted on compensation and activist wants. I chuckle at the waste associated with a department or class title that end in the word “studies”.
Gary,
What is your salary? You need to focus on writing better articles.
Write articles that will inspire more students to enroll in STEM disciplines.
Gary, Grunt’s one and only purpose in posting is to turn the question from the original question to being about him and his POV and when he gets called on it, he accuses the blogger of changing the rules on him! You’ll probably delete this cecause it’s off your origional question, but wanted make that comment anyway and add my “opinion” that you do a great job and raise questions that have leaveway for both seriousness and fun.
Are you speaking to me?
Guess I’m confused as the only “remark” I attempted to post is the one posted. Please delete it rather than leaving the thought hanging there that I attempted to post somethng else that you screened and deleted. Since I have no say in what either Mr. Obama or Mr. Doti make, I really can’t get too charged up about what they make. Now that Obama is aware of this discrepancy, however, maybe the salaries of university presidents will come under the umbrella of salaries he wants to control and limit. That’s a thought. Now, what I’d really like to know is if we’re going to get any rain.
Evennow: All three of your remarks are posted. I didn’t touch them. The Register has a strict policy that says you can’t alter the words of any reader’s post.
Editor’s Note: The remark from the reader who made a racial comment has been deleted.
Gary there are so many racist comments by so many readers. Thanks for the deletion.
Next life Im going to be President of a School of higher education!
Doti gets more than most presidents because he does a better job. Every year there is another 80 million dollar building on campus.
Chapman is one of the only univeristies in the nation to be making more donations than the loss in their endoments in this economy.
um well. considering the president gets paid by Goldman Sachs and the banks. i would have to say he gets paid more than 400k.
its pretty common knowledge that once you’re president you get paid much more than what is said.
You have four comments posted publicly. I can see them.
At least you can fire the college president!
Looks like Jim should of bolted from Orange to Stockton…The new UOP president is making 1.35 Million a year! Yikes….It’s a great school and the oldest in California with a huge endowment…The surrounding neighborhoods are not much different….and they have a Division 1 athletic program! She lives on campus next to frat row…but who cares at 1.35 million a year! Yikes again!
At least she’s keeping the boat upright! Sometimes you get what you pay for in a US President…The dough is paid on the backend anyway
If our President did as good a job as Mr. Doti has done I would have no problem increasing his salary. This has become a fine small university and he has done a remarkable job. I will forever be grateful of how well my daughter was educated in Chapman’s Law School. They are turning out some wonderfully caring and productive young citizens.
Unlike many executives that collect huge salaries and bonuses for losing money due to poor corporate performances, Doti has built a no-name local college into a regional powerhouse that has national recognition. The current president of the United States is overpaid if his salary were performance based. Unemployment at over 10%, government takeovers of the financial private sector and attempting to take over the health care private sector with ambitions for taking over the industrial sector with cap and trade. Doti built something, the current president is destroying capitalism in America and is turning America into an European socialist country.
Why are we seeing articles like this lately about how much college Presidents are paid?
We never see articles questioning why football or basketball coaches are paid more than the college president. Why is that?
We never see articles asking why the presidents or CEOs of most small to medium sized corporations make more than the President. Why is that?
Hi Bill. There have been articles similar to what you’re talking about just this week. Some professors at UC Berkeley want to basically end financial support to sports programs and put the money toward athletics.
I think you meant to say academics
Editor’s Note: Hobb’s remark deleted. The subject is Dr. Doti’s pay, not Tiger Wood’s golf swing.
As far as I see it, he probably desrerves higher pay than obama, as I’m sure he’s accomplished more at the university than obama has for our country and travels less doing it.
Doti has had years to build Chapman University. Obama has been in office less than one year. Give it a rest.
haha please. America only continues to get WORSE under Obama, and the fact it’s slid this much already during his Presidency is pretty scary. can you say the same about Chapman? will you say the same about Obama in one more year? heck no
It’s these colleges which create the great minds..well except obama and bush..lol they deserve the moneh
It appears to me that GARY is doing all he can to violate the readers’ rights under the 1st Amendment with all his editing. If you don’t want to see what the readers have to say, then simply remove the public opinion section. GARY is a pro-obama liberal who can’t handle the truth. And another poster was correct in that you opened the door to obama by using him as a salary comparison. Leave my Constitutional Rights alone as long as there is no profanity or direct insult to any one or other posters. I fought through 2 tours in Vietnam protecting the freedoms we enjoy, not to have liberals attempt to tear them apart. Let the people have their say as long as it’s civil!
I simply following the Register comments policy, which you agreed to. Part of it says that readers must stay on topic. And they must be civil. I enforce the policy. As for politics, at different times I have voted for Democrats and Republicans for president. I admired Ted Kennedy and do admire conservation Maine Republican Olympia Snowe. I’m not a hardcore idealogue. Finally, Mark, you comment wasn’t posted because it had nothing to do with the subject. Dr. Doti’s salary is the subject.
Who sets the salary for Chapman’s President? Perhaps they should be asked for the rational behind their decision? If $X are offered I would hardly expect a candidate to say “Oh, that’s too much.”
Dusty: To answer you question, President Doti’s pay is set by the university’s board of trustees.
“And reader Mark you comment wasn’t posted”?? I know as a writer you must proofread your stuff, HUH? Now we know why Mr. Doti’s salary is what it is. Great little university Chapman. I first saw that “college” in 1969 when I was a police officer in the city of Orange and have seen it’s tremendous growth with little or no land intrusion. All who have served there have done a marvelous job and it appears Mr. Doti my just be the best.
>>Chapman president earns more than U.S. president
As he should.
He no doubt does far far more to earn his salary than Nicolae Carpathia does to earn his.
In citing Nicolae Carpathia, Archie is referring to a fictional character that Wikipedia describes as ” the Antichrist, and leader of the Global Community, a world government which he ultimately marshals against the followers of Jesus Christ.” President Obama is a Christian.
Meh, I guess I shouldn’t have made that reference and just stuck to the topic. My apologies.
He’s a CINO, Gary.
Dr. Doti deserves a higher pay. He actually DOES something. Chapman College/University is actually 30 years OLDER than Stanford just for clarification….started in 1861.
Good morning…The only way to determine whether anyone’s compensation is approriate is to measure it against the roles and responsibilities of the job and the person’s performance in fullfilling them… in Jim Doti’s case that is to increase the value of the degree earned realtive to the cost…which begs the question whether a degree from Chapman today is worth more than when he first became president? It would seem the me that he earns his pay. If President Obama’s compensation package were to be measured in a similar way, it would be hard to say he’s worth anything at all when one considers the cost of the federal government relative to what it produces…
Toofunny: Thanks for the thoughtful post.
I don’t know if Doti should make a larger salary than the POTUS, but the president of a small, little-known, hayseed college like Chapman definitely SHOULDN’T make a larger salary than the president of a world-reknowned, prestigious institution like UCLA, regardless of whether or not that hayseed college is private or public.
You haven’t been to Chapman since the 50s, have ya? Little known? Maybe if you were under a rock. It’s so well known even people on the east coast know of it.
Of course, I may be reading your comment out of context. Perhaps you were just being sarcastic to some other comment I haven’t seen.
every public employee should be taking a pay cut right now, I don’t care who they are. and no way the President of Berkeley should be making that much. but if you would like a list of Doti’s accomplishments at Chapman I’m sure the college would gladly provide them to Gary on your behalf.
Doti has moved Chapman onto solid financial footing from the shakey position the college was in 20 years ago and many improvements have been made on his watch. It has been a long time since you can say that about an American president. Generally, presidents have dragged this country from war to war, with occasional recessions and runaway inflation. All my financial gain from the Reagan years of greed have been lost in the Bush-Obama year of financial meltdown.
Also, it is not a valid compensation comparison to just consider salary when so much other compensation is not included in the comparison. Consider housing and household staff and the fleet of vehicles and drivers, not just for the respective president’s, but also for their immediate family. It is not unusual to pay a low salary and add perks that may or may not be taxable. Add up all the compensation, and then resubmit your question.
Higher education is big business, we all know that. It is a system where the institutions and their owners become insanely wealthy under the umbrella that they are helping young lives reach a better future. Those who benefit from this system as a graduate, or employee, will attempt to defend it, just as you see in this blog. The big universities are no different than large multi-national corporations, so I suppose Doti’s income should be viewed in that same vein. If he performs, and the university does well, he is compensated very well as a reward. Some people are shocked when big schools and churches unveil large salaries, but they are just big business entities like the Fortune 500 set.
Both are horrible at what they do. Chapman is at best an average university. It’s not known outside of southern cal and for the price of tuition, it is a rip off.
I think that President Doti should receive whatever the Chapman Board of Trustees deems an appropriate compensation based on his evaluation.
Having written that, I have watched President Doti turn Chapman College from a sleepy little college into a well respected university. He has led Chapman into a position of higher learning that offers its students quality education. I am a complete outsider but I have observed Dr. Doti acting as a visionary in developing this fine institution. Kudos to Dr. Doti and to the Board of Trustees that hired and supported him in his efforts.
No one is worth that kind of money. But the parents keep paying the tuition so if they choose to blow their money that way then so be it.
When the student graduates with a huge student loan and still can’t find a job I don’t feel bad. The student chose to go to Chapman, the student and parents chose to pay that kind of tuition.
What is really funny about this is that Chapman has religious ties. Guess they ignore that now and follow the God of $$$
Hi Debbie. To be fair, student loan debt is not unique to Chapman. It is common across academia. I was in an airport bar two weeks ago and ended up talking to a University of Minnesota student who told me he was going to have more than $20,000 in debt when he graduated. (He was majoring in engineering.) Also, Chapman has a sizable religious studies program and the Fish Interfaith Chapel, which is open to all faiths and open to the public. If you check the history of older colleges and universities, you’ll find that many of them, especially private schools, have religious roots.
Student didnt choose to go to chapman, they applied and got excepted, it seem to me you couldnt get in and thats your loss. I belived chapman is a great college and has high stardands that you oviously dont have
Maybe and article about the bonuses earned by the Freedom executives while company is in bankruptcy?
The salary of the US President is almost irrelevant considering what they can earn after leaving office thru books, speeches, corporate boards.
Dr. Doti will likely not be able to charge $100k a speech when he retires.
If I were the Chapman president I would tell the register to pound sand. His comeback about trading jobs with Barry was pretty good though.
Maybe Mr. Doti has more common sense and is smarter then the president.
Who Cares?
The trouble with modern education is that there is no requirement to learn what is important to make rational decisions in a complex society. If one were required to take economics these days, one would learn that market forces determine one’s pay. The reason why a president has a low base salary in office is because the real dollars flow in after he leaves office. Just look at what Bubba is making now he can put the squeeze on all of his political connections, or better yet the president wanna-be All Gore and his ill-gotten gains. Dotti is paid what the college needs to pay to hire and retain a president that meets their requirements.
Reading this article and many of the posts, I guess we really are “all socialists now,”
They’re both dramatically overpaid . The president and all government employees are overpaid because of greed and an apathetic population.The college presidents because of a third party payment system ( the government) and a brainwashed public.
octaxpayer: Dr. Doti’s salary isn’t paid by the government.
Do you pepole at OCR have anything better to do than stroke the flames of class warfare? Presidents of universities and corporations should make whatever the market and their boards allow. These people bear a lot of responsibility for millions and billions of dollars. The president will make his millions after he leaves office. I agree with the other posters. You don’t spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get elected president just for the sallary. It’s all about the power and the millions you make afterwards, period. And in some, cases, if you are vice president, you can go out and push flawed science and make hundreds of millions of dollars.
Since my first comment was not posted I will try again. A private university’s salary schedule is frankly not up for debate. They are private universities for a reason. If he was president of CSUF there would be a wide opportunity for debate. He could be paid a million dollars a year and I would still not care. These universities are funded by private individuals who have no problem paying the $40-$50K annually for their children to attend. How do I know this, my daughter is a sophomore at Chapman. Do I have a problem with his salary….Not at all. Again, another smear campaign courtesy of the OCregister.
Mark: You make it sound like everyone can easily afford to attend Chapman. Not true. More than 80 percent of Chapman’s students receive some level of financial aid. And many of those students would not be able to afford to attend without such help. As previous stories have noted, Chapman ranks among the 75 most expensive schools in the country. You’ll find the same situation at most colleges and universities. During Friday night’s opening show of “American Celebration” at Chapman, Dr. Doti spoke to the audience and told them that he was aware that the parents of many students had lost their job over the last year or so and were struggling to help keep their kids in school. I also disagree with your claim that a president’s salary is not up for debate. Students are consumers. They have a right to expect a certain level of quality since they’re paying most of the freight. These executives work on behalf of students. It’s not the other way around. Again, that is not a comment about Dr. Doti. I’m talking about all college students.
Then is it the students’ responsibility, as the consumers, to be asking the question you posed?
good for him that he’s getting paid that much.
but if he starts complaining he wants more once the economy jumps up, then scrap him and get someone that loves the tittle not the money.
I choose to spend my time focusing on my salary and not what other people earn.
The whole cult of the CEO is something that needs to be looked at. The people in those positions (and other “executive” positions) bounce from company to company awarding each other immense contracts that inevitably damage each company as a whole. It’s like a club, and the members of the club (or cult) protect and hire each other into different organizations. There ought to be a lifetime limit of 3 companies (including public/private/government) in any sector, then maybe these goons would be held accountable to actually perform.
Their contracts should also require firm requirements to perform and if they don’t they get fired without the golden parachutes they are stealing from the companies they are defrauding.
Stephen: You’re overlooking the fact that Dr. Doti has been president for 18 years, as it says in the story.
What a lame story… This is why YOU the journalist makes 40 grand per yr…. and the real ones make 80… The only reason the President of the US even gets a salary is lagalities…. For the rest of his life he will not spend a single penny of his own money…. I guess what everone is saying here IS… WHO CARES…. do me a favor, Find out why, With full medical and dental insurance is it that you can have a heart attack, go to the emergency room, open heart surgury, recovery etc, it cost 250 bucks for ER co-pay…. YET a root canal cost 900.00 with insurance…. HMMM, should have gone to dental school
Half the people in this country don’t “deserve” their salary…that’s just what happens when crony capitalism runs wild…
My daughter went to Chapman and it has become a world class institution in a short amount of time. His record speaks for him. Doti is completely responsible and should be paid accordingly. Remember this is a private school.
The Presidents however is here to serve the people as all elected officials are but it seems most politicians in this country are in it for the “money, power and perks”. Don’t forget the book deal Obama will get, never mind his miserable track record on the economy, health care and foreign police.
Politicians are not suppose to be “in it” for the salary, they are suppose to be there to serve our country. Vote all incumbents out!
Gary Robbins, science writer - editor! I`M not impressed please try again!
Let`s ask this then ! If his pay was lower would not the tuition be less? If you have to pay out so much, then yes it would be higher. Please GARY, don`t turn simple math into a financial debate!!!!
I don’t even know this guy, but he,s clearly worth more than the yahoo in the WH.
Meanwhile, I’m wallowing in student loan debt as a Chapman grad. Sigh.
When will the people get it right, the only reason Doti gets as much money, perks and power as he does is because the school board of directors allows it, and the board passes along the bill to the students and their parents. Is Doti worth it??? Hardly, name some famous alumni who credit Doti for their educational and creative development. I know of none, yet the parents should be reminded that just as Wall Street bankers had their day, Doti has his every payday. Cha, Ching…..
Every player on the Angels gets paid more than the president of the United States.
great point… even Reggie Willits makes $450,000. Reggie Willits!
Just want to throw this info out there- I believe President Doti is making less on paper that the Chancellor Dr. Struppa. And there is one other position that has a higher pay that Doit on paper. Granted, Doti probably does collect more in compensation, but I find it funny that he does not even make the most at Chapman and this is an issue at the OCR.
Why is his salary even a concern for anyone? This is a private school, not public. If you dont like what he is being paid, then dont go to the school.
Maybe because he has a better year?
compared to all the other ones on this list, I would have to say yes. (Pomona College? Berkeley? Berkeley is public and california is broke, so whoever presides there should really not be drawing a huge salary)
Here’s my suggestion.
All universities and colleges furlough all their presidents or chancellors for 1 year. If the universities and colleges don’t collapse after 1 year without the presidents and chacellors then it’s very safe to furlough them all permanently.
Imagine the money that is saved.
You can make a remark by talking about the topic at hand. The remark you attempted to post did nothing of the kind.
I say it again, Gary. There was no other comment. You’re being misleading now.